Hey Creators!

[Ovvl]

Since I'm feeling particularly Gracious this morning...
I have some suggestions. Fortunatley, because you are creators, most of these options should not be too difficult to code in.

Unfortunatley, the Creators, and the people maintaining this board should come to a mutual understanding.

I hate giving people ultimatums, and seeing as I'm not in a position to be giving ultimatums, I'll give you more than two viable options.

So first of all, lets talk about the mutual understanding.
first the creators must understand that alot of the quests on the Disc, are almost impossible to find. And the maintainers of this board, (QLS) must understand that the creators are bent not neccesarily because the quests are listed, but becuase there is a full walkthrough of most of the quests.
[OPTION 1]
I would suggest, changing the format of the quest list.
if perhaps the maintainers of the board could find it in the best interest of all involved to change the way the quest list is presented. but in order for the QLS to change the format of the list, the creators have to alter the way the quests are revealed in the game. if I'm working on a quest, and I'm in a room that is concerning a quest, there should be a command I can enter to figure out which quest I'm in. as it is, you don't know the quest name until you complete it. which leaves someone hunting for quest help in a predicklement. so I'm working on this quest, and I'm in this room, and I can't find the name of the quest, so I go to this quest list, and I have to read through the solutions of all these quests to find the quest I'm stuck on. then I get my hint, or if I'm having a good memory day, it does take the fun out of it. do you guys understand what I mean?

so the QLS change the format where a mudder can come here, click on the name of the quest, and then click hint, and keep clicking hint until the quest is fully revealed, or, I reach the place where I'm stuck.

so lets say I'm working on... the easy parcel delivery for the post office. (which I think the creators have randomized the delivery locations. :claps: ) so I click AM quests, and then I find the quest name, and my first delivery says Pepper Pot. so I click hint, and the page says, look at Airk's atlas of AM, click here. so there is a hint without revealing the quest solution. in that hint window/page there are two buttons. found it thanks, another hint. say I'm feeling particularly stupid this day, and I click another hint. it says, the pepper pot is on blah street, in the southeastern part of AM. again, two options.

so I can click my way through the quest, and solve it that way, only reading what I need to complete it.
that is the first suggestion.
[OPTION 2]
The next suggestion is for the creators to do thier best at randomizing quests. the fetch the stick variety should be very easy to code.
[OPTION 3]
next suggestion. which I'm not sure about how the fellow people on this board would feel about this. or the creators for that matter, but I know that the new players on the disc would appreciate this, and maybe some of the older ones.

first, when you are starting out on the disc, ( I realized this last night, and I find it really funny, but kinda Ironic, and kinda stupid too.) it's a pain in I disagree, and the rats, and the roaches asses too, because it is VERY difficult to get enough XP when you are a newbie on the disc. it is probably easier to hack the game and make your character into a never dying god, than to make enough XP in your first four hours to be able to kill anything but rats, roaches, and searching for pennies in the gutters.
the funny part is, that if you spend too much time in the room with the training dummy, the amount of EXP you need to advance your fighting to a level you are safe to try to kill a mangy factory cat, takes forever to get. and is gone with one level almost instantly.
taking the XP rewards away from the quests has only hurt new players.
I suggest, that XP rewards be reinstated on all quests for all players that are guild level 100 or less. I understand there is alot of if and or code to write there, but at least you would no longer be hurting the players that you want to keep around. no offense to midbies, or oldies.
so just to be a smart ass, I'll throw in
[OPTION 4]
All of the above...

So please, on and all, lets turn this topic into a detailed discussion about options. options to keep new blood in the game, options about keeping things fair for all involved. I want to hear opinions, I want to hear pro's cons, I want to hear everything but name calling. because if you can't do anything but call people names on this board, go back to discworld and hack and slash some rats or whatever people that have the same capacity for original thought as a bowl of warm jello do in their... whatever.

[blah]

You whine. A lot. And this isn't from a creator.

[Kanz]

In response to solution 3 there. You don't think people would just stay under gl 100 and do lots of quests and get lots of xp first, then spend it once they've done most quests?

Also in agreement with blah here

[Ovvl]

pssst. hey blah, jello brain... if you can't say something smart... don't say nuthin at awl.

well I suppose people could try to run as many quests as possible without... advancing. but there is a good chance they will TM GL 100, or die and lose the majority of thier XP. naturally, when a character reaches GL 100, it's pretty easy to run around AM and make 100K XP in less than an hour hacking and slashing.
And I also know people get cocky, and they attack something they think they can take, and they get little fillets of their ass handed to them, one sword stroke at a time. I've heard people all over the disc complain about dying, and losing more than half the XP they just earned.
so I believe that people will tend to err on the side of caution, rather than attempt to gain 3 billion XP before they spend it. and besides, from what I understand there is a CAP on how much unspent XP you can have.

[bingles]

Removal of quest xp was one of the best things they ever did for the mud.

It made it much more difficult to quickly create a harrassment alt.

Saddly, they are becoming more common now since werewolves were introduced.

[Kanz]

why go around killing stuff if they can just do quests? I meant "jello brain", that they do the quests FIRST, then advance and kill stuff. If they need to advance a few little skills so they can do quests, its not going to get them to GL100, they can always do the really hard quests later

[ovvl]

again, I so wish people could think.
first when you are a new player it is a pregnant dog to get that xp you need to reach a skill level where you can accomplish stuff.
once you are at that level though, you can get XP very easily. you don't play in the mud do you? or you have such an advanced character that the last time you had a new char there was still xp being handed out for quests.
ok, anyone on this forum that uses thier head?
why don't you look at my suggestions again, and be sure to check out my complaints

[blah]

And smart is bitching about the creators and the way they do quests on a quest list instead of doing it on the disc forums or an idea report itself where they might actually listen.

Maybe that's just a lack of guts instead of smarts though.

Side point. I've found the people that have to rely on pointing out how stupid other people are tend to be the least bright bulbs of all .

You're on a forum that directly goes against Disc rules. Why are you trying to start a crusade on it.

[edanna]

I agree with blah here. And I love your patronizing tone.

[Ovvl]

I'm sorry blah I guess I missed the part where I called you stupid. I saw the part where you admitted to it though.

[Kanz]

Nobody wants to hear your whinging Ovvl. Go away

[blah]

Noone said you called me stupid Read closer.